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FISHING AFTER WORK SPECIAL
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Ever wondered why Nick Castellanos' home runs seem to coincide with the most awkward moments in sports broadcasting? Join Harry and Paul Troutman in our new segment, "Fishing After Work," where we chat about balancing hectic lives while producing spontaneous and entertaining episodes. From Paul's bustling family life to his hilarious transformation from a TikTok skeptic to a nightly fan, we promise you'll be laughing along with us. Plus, we recount the unforgettable and bizarre moment of Castellanos' home run during a Reds commentator's apology—a moment so perfectly timed it makes you question whether Castellanos has some kind of premonition.
Is there a right way to put on socks and shoes? You might be surprised by our quirky debate on this topic, blending humor and personal habits into the mix. We share stories about the discomfort of walking and driving barefoot, touching on everything from nostalgic family car adventures to Aunt Sarah's run-ins with the law. Get ready for a light-hearted journey through daily oddities and sports superstitions that will keep you both entertained and amused.
Finally, we tackle one of the most contentious food debates: is a hot dog a sandwich or a taco? We dig into the definitions, structures, and nuances of these beloved foods, sharing memories of high school lunches, cheesesteaks, and Brisk iced tea. Wrapping up with the excitement of having podcast content ready to go live, we send a heartfelt thank you to our listeners for their support. So tune in, enjoy the ride, and remember—Go birds!
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Hello friends, and welcome to a special episode of the trout stream. I am Harry Troutman, and with me, as always, is my co-host, I am Paul Troutman. So pick up a pole, cast a line and join us on the stream. We are going to call this fishing after work. If you're an outdoorsman, you know you're driving home, you see the crick. You're like, yeah, let me pull over. Half hour, 45 minutes, a couple casts take the edge of the day off. That is exactly what this episode is going to be. Now let's be perfectly honest. Paul and I are two adults. We have responsibility. Paul has plenty of children, I do not, but I still have responsibilities and sometimes we can't record. So we're going to make a stockpile of these quick casts. That way we never go a week without an episode.
Speaker 2Yeah, I also like how you said I have plenty of children.
Speaker 1Plenty. Yeah, I meant to say plentiful, you can always have more. Yeah, I meant to say plentiful, you can always have more. Yeah, just pump them out, dude. I'm okay and the fear in your eyes is more than enough. So listen, we're not going to talk current events. Nope, hopefully, some friendly debating. Right, I'm going to tell you you're wrong. You're going to tell me I'm wrong, things that make us laugh, and so on and so forth. Again, not a full episode. We are recording this, so this is our first, one Prime example. It is July 15th. This episode might not even come out until November. It's August 15th. See, we're already off to a very hot start on this one.
Speaker 2There's no script dude.
Speaker 1So we're a script, not a scripted show, but we have bullet points and there's an outlined show and outline this is. There's no outline here. No, this is this is.
Speaker 2this is us just talking and honestly I'm not trying to edit it all that much either no, just talking, and honestly I'm not trying to edit it all that much either no. I mean, we keep it clean and simple for the edits. Who cares if we ramble or slip up? You know, we might say the wrong month couldn't even. Not even two minutes in not a lot of two minutes in and you know it's almost like your computer has a calendar in the bottom corner well, I I saw 8, thought July said, not August.
Speaker 2You know, for some wild reason, I knew that was the answer, Without even saying anything. I knew that was the answer.
Speaker 1Yep, yep oh.
Speaker 2I love it. You know the one thing I was going to. Okay, ready Break break.
Speaker 1So the one thing I was oh, I thought we were going to talk about that for a second. This is why we need outlines, guys. Break break is our cue to pause the show. When I edit and we talk about a sidetrack or make sure we're not going to talk about the same thing or something we talked about before. That is our cue, break break. It's super nice when I'm editing because when I hear that I know I got a bunch of stuff to delete and all that or it's just a tangent that we go off on. So, yeah, there you get to see. And then there's a little bit this is a fun and a little bit behind the scenes I was telling Paul hey, why don't you start it off? And he said break break. And then I thought that meant we were going to talk and we weren't rambling. Let's go start us off, dude.
Speaker 2So most evenings, once the kids are in bed you know my plenty kids are in bed and Sabrina and I are winding down, whether that's at 930 or 11, 12 o'clock at night. Right, you got to get on the old TikTok because I got messages Hold on.
Speaker 1This is see, this is why I'm going to love this. You were so against TikTok. Yeah, you were against the old, the old Tac as you called it. I was, and here we are, and you want to know who sends me the most TikToks Ang? Not my wife. I'll tell you that I have like four friends on TikTok Ang Our sister Melissa, my father-in-law and you and you send me the most, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2I got you, melissa and Sabrina, so you're welcome, you three, because I just send everything to everybody. It's so great, though Not everything find. If there's anything that makes me chuckle or snort or breathe heavy, right, or if you, if you find a really good one I just thought of the really good one that at night, as I'm laying down as brenda's sitting there and she's looking at me like that dude from the dodge hemi commercials, like she says what are you laughing, what are you doing over there? I'm just laughing. It's hilarious. But yes, so anyway, we lay there and we're watching TikTok separately, and then I hear a familiar video pop up on her. So I got a pause on my screen. I just look over and she goes a scroll past. I said no, no, no, no, no, no, go back, go back. And that voice I heard Harry.
Speaker 2As I'm looking at it, it's old time Brenneman, the commentator for the Reds, who's given his apology for some inappropriate things. He said, while hot mic'd, things that shouldn't be said anyway, but he said it hot mic'd and he's giving a very, very sincere apology. To anybody who I've upset or offended, I apologize. And that is a deep fly ball left field home run, nick castellanos. So I really apologize and like that's the most subtle thing and that was the very first instance where nick castellanos hit a home run during a wild event. And then of course there's other TikToks that I've sent you, harry, that listed out all of the home runs that he hit at the inappropriate I don't want to say inappropriate times, but just funny times.
Speaker 1Not the best times, like, obviously it's a baseball game, guys are going to hit home runs, duh, right, yeah, but it's always seemed like Castellanos of the Philadelphia Phillies hits them at the worst time possible. During the game there was a I don't know. One was a World War II veteran. Yeah, that's what I was thinking of yeah, he hit home run then.
Speaker 2Yeah, his eulogy.
Nick Castellanos' Home Run Jinx
Speaker 1His eulogy yeah, they were doing a memoriam for the queen and castiano comes up to the plate. So you're, you're a southerner, right, and you probably heard this, and I hope a bunch of people have, because I love waffle house. But you know, fema does the waffle house survey. If waffle house is the weather is not that bad, right, and if Waffle House is closed, it's bad. Yeah, I mean, I do the same survey here. So, literally on tonight's game, nick Castellanos hit a home run and I was like, oh God, what happened in the world? What? Who died? What's wrong?
Speaker 2Who is apologizing to the mass public or who has died?
Speaker 1Who has died? How is the world affected right now? But it's that, it's once. Okay. Twice, weird, weird, eight times, nine times, whatever the number is, it's at this point, it's. He knows.
Speaker 2It's like nine or ten. It's like somebody sends him a signal from the dugout. They like tip their cap and Nick looks at the picture and the picture also tips his cap. But like, hey man, they're getting ready to do old Stevie Ray's eulogy up here. World War two vet hit one out for him. I think that's his citizen in cards, or you know, sending thoughts and prayers, a card or flowers. Cassidy's like I'll hit a home run for you, queen.
Speaker 1Elizabeth. I got you All right, dude. So I pulled up the list. You ready, I'm ready. So we already covered the first couple right. We got the mid apology for the very bad words. We we got the mid apology for the very bad words. We have the eulogy Nick Castellano earned his first hit in a Phillies uniform while Blue Jays broadcast was discussing pitching coach Pete Walker's DUI I mean Memorial Day a somber moment on Memorial Day was interrupted by who else? Nick Castellanos. It's just, it's so bad.
Speaker 2How does it happen so many times?
Speaker 1Oh, charlie Manuel, we love Charlie Manuel. He was our manager, I love.
Speaker 2Charlie.
Speaker 1And we won the World Series. Unfortunately, Charlie did have a bad stroke this year. They're talking about Charlie Manuel and how scary it is and you know, hopefully he gets back on his feet and Nick Castellanos' home run, Willie Mays dies. Nick Castellanos hitsits a walk-off.
Speaker 2Like that, dude just knows Like.
Speaker 1Okay, here see, and here's what I'm talking about. Here's exactly why, when I heard Nick hit a home run tonight, I was like oh, what happened On July 13th? Castellanos Blessing a two-run home run in the second inning of the Phils game against the A's? Nothing of significance happened, okay, except two hours later when there was an assassination attempt. That's what I'm saying. This dude it's so great because when he homers he's the coolest. That's what I'm saying. That's it, this dude like it's so great because, like, when he homers, he's the coolest, chillest dude and he's got a swagger, or, as hip kids say, he has an aura about him and it's so, it's so awesome. And then it's just like, ah crap, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2yeah, I mean, if he would have been on the Philz and we got Ben Lawton, we would have known right away.
Speaker 1I wonder what the most home runs in a game was, because Nick would have broke it that night.
Speaker 2Yeah, most home runs in a game is four.
Speaker 1He would have had seven.
Speaker 2Yeah, he would have had seven in five plate appearances. I do remember that the Phil's Mets game when we got Ben Lott Because there was a special, it was Sunday night baseball. Phil's Mets, mm-hmm, in Philly. It was in Philly and, like you know, it reminded me of that game. You know because I watched the thing on it and none of the players had any idea.
Speaker 1So I watched that same special. What's even crazier is there was no other sports that day or on at that time. There was nothing, nothing on Sports wise, except the Phillies and the Mets. It was just Phillies and Mets. That was the only thing going on, and Nick Castellanos traveled back in time to hit seven home runs. Seven home runs. It's just so crazy.
Speaker 2You think he's got a ritual. I'd be like, okay, this guy's going to apologize later. I know he's going to apologize, so just in case I have a superstition about how I get ready for the game. Like, maybe certain jewelry he wears right, maybe he wants to wear a black belt, or it could be the order in which he puts his socks on.
Speaker 1I have a very hot take. Oh, do you Sock shoe, sock shoe. No, that's how I get dressed every day.
Speaker 1Well, that explains a lot about you because it's sock, sock shoe shoe. No, because it's sock shoe, sock shoe. You sit down with your socks and your shoes at the same time, right, yeah? And then, while you have one foot up, you put on your sock and then your shoe. Why are you going to lift your leg once? Put your sock down, put put your sock and then your shoe. Why are you going to lift your leg Once? Put your sock down, put your sock on, put your leg down, lift up your other leg, sock on foot down, then your other. Bring your leg back up Shoe, other leg back up Shoe. That is seconds Off your day Seconds.
Speaker 2Yeah, but also like it's a NASCAR pit stop, but who's saying I'm putting my shoes on right away?
Speaker 1Well then, that's a different debate.
Speaker 2Okay, but I also put my socks on before I put my pants on.
Speaker 1That's weird. I don't like that at all. So you're just walking around wife beater boxers and socks.
Speaker 2Yeah, no.
Speaker 1Why not?
Speaker 2No, I mean, I'm not walking around that way, Like when I'm getting ready in the morning, I put my socks on and I put my pants on. Why?
Speaker 1Well, one for my uniform, or tall socks? No, I'm talking about saturday no uniform.
Speaker 2Oh, wearing jeans, yeah, it's like putting my socks on them. On pants no, it's a mental thing for me because, like, maybe one time like a toenail got you know on a piece of thread and it was uncomfortable putting my pants on. But it feels weird putting pants on without socks on.
Speaker 1No, because if you're focused on your feet, focus on your feet, don't go back to it. Get it done, get it over with no.
Speaker 2Even if my brain everything I do work.
Speaker 1I mean I probably get tested, but everything I do is NASCAR pit. What is the fastest way I can get this done?
Speaker 2True, that makes sense, but weird. Yeah, man, I don't know. Like, maybe your NASCAR pit stop idea sounds great for putting on my socks and shoes, but I'm just a huge fan of sock, sock, shoe, shoe.
Speaker 1No, because then you here's the other thing you walk around your house in your socks, and I'm not saying, your house is dirty, but then like what if you get something stuck on your sock? And then you put your shoe on and now it's stuck in your shoe and your sock it's stuck in your shoe. Now you're walking on it all day. That would just change my sock.
Speaker 2So then you gotta take it off. It's pretty presumptuous of you to think I'm gonna step on something in my house.
Speaker 1No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, then you gotta take off. Oh man, you just pissed me off. You gotta take off your shoe.
Speaker 2Where would I put my shoe if I had something stuck to my sock? Maybe you?
Speaker 1didn't feel it until you put your shoe on.
Speaker 2No, I'm still sock, sock, shoe, shoe. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1I'm saying no, I'm not. We'll get back to that part of the argument. I'm talking about walking around in your socks and start your day. I have cats. Listen, I have cats and they love twist ties and anything little and small. They can bat around Right. I haven't bought a cat toy in years because it's just. If we get a bread with twist ties, I just throw it on the ground. I haven't bought a cat toy in years because it's just. If we get a bread with twist ties.
Speaker 2I just throw it on the ground. They love it and they're happy. That makes more sense. That's what I do with my kids too.
Speaker 1So like there's a bunch of little things around my house, I'm not stepping on that, not feeling it. Then I put my shoe on and I'm walking to work and I feel something in my shoe and then it's weird. I don't have that problem when I'm in one sitting position and I just socks, sock shoe, sock shoe.
Speaker 2Here's my thing, harry. I'm going to do sock, sock, shoe, shoe, and I'm going to have my shoes on the ready. I don't really wear my shoes in the house. Now I get it. You got your cats with your twist ties, but I have kids with toys and I'm very clumsy, like I'm a big dumb animal. Folks, I trip over my own feet, I trip over my kids, I trip over everything. But I'm always in like an emergency mindset, like I'm always ready. For the longest time. I wore my shoes in the house at all times, until Sabrina explained to me, like how dirty that is. I'm like, okay, I guess I was just walking around in oil and grass and tracking it in the house with our kids you know, babies crawling around, smart, idea, smart. But like the amount of, like the flashlights that I have in my kitchen and like my emergency stuff for some reason, like I've always got to be at a ready. So if I put one sock and one shoe on, boom, something caps off. Now the other shit, the other foot is barefoot no shoe.
Speaker 1Ooh, that is see. This is why I like this Cause. That's, that's a good, that's a damn good point dude. I'll run shoe and sock, but running shoe and barefoot.
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 1It's like trying to blow your nose with sandpaper no. I get it, especially being a parent. I guess you only have that half second, yeah, to act. You can't be like. All right, let me put my soccer and shoe on.
Speaker 2Like my current sneakers that I have for the first time in a very long time, I they are untied. I have to tie them every time I put them on. Oh no yeah, but also uh, oh no yeah, but also they're hokas, so they're really good for walking and they're tighter around the camp. But anyway, to make it quick and easy, I untie every time so I can just bloop, bloop, go and run. Also, maybe part of my anxiety and maybe my slight ADD ADHD is I feel as though I have to be ready for an emergency at any given moment.
Speaker 1You know, 20 years of military training will probably do that?
Speaker 2Yeah, but I had two and like a lot of reading and I always think worst case scenario. So socks, socks, go on. But boom, I can run in two socks. I'm not going to run in a shoe. Yeah, two socks, you're ready.
Speaker 1And then boom two shoes, you're ready.
Speaker 2That dude has some tough feet.
Speaker 1I, dude, I, I took the dog out and I uh, I didn't have shoes on and I walked across my driveway and I felt every little stone and I was like this is this? This sucks.
Speaker 2Yeah, I was. Uh, I was the same way until I moved down here and I don't know what it is. I wouldn't even go into my garage, which is smooth cement, without some kind of shoes on, whether they're flip-flops or my sliders or something, or Crocs. I always had something on until I don't know. A couple years ago, I went down, I took my trash out and I was like I don't have shoes on. As I walked down my driveway and put the cans on the curb, I was like, oh, it's not as bad as I thought it would be.
Speaker 1I still don't like it.
Speaker 2No, it still feels weird. Plus, like you can't drive without shoes on because everybody knows that's illegal.
Speaker 1Is it though?
Speaker 2No, I don't think it is.
Speaker 1We were just told that that was one of like dad's stories, that Aunt Sarah almost got arrested for it.
Speaker 2Yeah Well don't get me started with Aunt Sarah, it's getting pulled over. Have you ever, ever driven barefoot anywhere.
Speaker 1So going back to like Pittsburgh, when we have long drives, even when I drove down to you, I wear Crocs, right, and I might down to you, I wear, I wear Crocs, right, and I might take it off, yeah. But then I'm like in cruise control and like it's just so I can put my big feet, it's just so I can slide my foot under the breaker gas and kind of like stretch my knee out Right, but like gas and brake without shoes is a very weird feeling.
Speaker 1It's a very weird feeling, I even want to move my truck. Yeah and yeah, I don't like it. I don't feel like I'm secure. I don't feel like I'm secure and safe at all.
Speaker 2No, no, no, I don't trust my bare feet with pedals.
Speaker 1Nope, nope, and it's so weird. Something gets just half what, half an inch, maybe an inch of rubber, not even, and it just freaks me out. Yeah, you don't have that cushion there.
Speaker 2Yeah, it makes me go. Uh Like I'm one with my pedal. I'm not a NASCAR driver. They got to be one with their pedal. Me no, I'm just a normal schmallow. Nah, me and my truck know each other pretty well.
Speaker 1But what was it, kevin Harvick? But it's lock tight. You used to put lock tight on his shoes. They grip the pedals better. Basically, put like, stick them on the bottom of his shoes, on the balls of his feet, so he would stick to the pedals because they're two-footed drivers, you know, I guess so good for him. I mean, I'm not saying it makes a total bit of sense, but no, next time, just like, bolt your shoe to the pedal.
Speaker 2Hey man, you wanna see my new foot pedals? I got in. They look like shoes. That's because they are my shoes. You're driving barefoot, you know. Some say it's illegal. You know, might have been like there and Sarah one time almost got pulled over for it, but nothing would be the time that she did get pulled over in mom's. That tan grand marquee, beautiful, beautiful. I love that car. I love that car. I don't care, I want one now.
Speaker 1You're calling it a car. It was a boat.
Speaker 2No, it's a boat, but it can fit three children comfortably in the backseat, in car seats. I know this because you, our sister and our cousin, who are all the same age, we're in car seats, in the backseat, in car seats. I know this because you, our sister and our cousin, who are all the same age, were in car seats. In the backseat, our older sister, amanda, was riding shotgun while Sarah was driving. But where was I? That's right, I was laying on the backseat floor. Statute of limitations are over. It was well over 25 years ago and we're fine actually it's probably over 30 years.
Speaker 2really, it was over 30 years ago now, so we're fine, we're way good. Dude, I lost track of time there 20 years ago. No, it was like over 30 years ago and I remember I started getting pulled over and she told me to grab a blanket, hide under it and don't move. So I wrapped up like a little burrito down there and I covered my head and did not move and I remember the cop goes hey, what's going on back here? She goes oh, you know, just the kids, you know, and their stuff fell on the floor. Do you mind if I look around there? She goes I mean, if you want to, it's just their stuff down there. He's like, all right, well, he's still a good person, have a good day. And I'm like, oh my God, she would have gone to jail.
Speaker 1Right to jail. That had to be hot, though, because, like back in the day you got the transmission, you were on the transmission.
Speaker 2Hal, I was on the hub but like once I got the clear down, the blanket came off me. I kind of just sat up sitting there. But yeah, I was kind of wrapped up like a you know a burrito or maybe a hot dog, or maybe someone called it a sandwich. I know it was wrapped up pretty good down there.
Speaker 1Oh well, a hot dog's, not a sandwich man?
Hot Dog vs Taco Debate
Speaker 2No, I'll agree with you A hot dog is not a sandwich. A hot dog Harry is a taco. Oh, hot dog is not a sandwich. A hot dog Harry is a taco. I want you and our listeners to think about that right now. What shape is a taco shell? Hold on so a hoagie's a taco it depends is the bottom of the bread, the roll together. Is the roll one piece or not?
Speaker 1it's technically one piece of bread cut in half. Let's back up for a second. Did you just put hot dogs and hoagies in the same? It's technically one piece of bread cut in half. Oh, let's back up for a second.
Speaker 2Did you just put hot dogs and hoagies in the same category?
Speaker 1Well, they're technically both served on rolls.
Speaker 2Well, what is a hoagie? What is a cheesesteak?
Speaker 1They're sandwiches, right, so why so wait, hold on. So if they're sandwiches, why isn't a hot dog a sandwich? Right, right, so why so wait? Hold on. So if their sandwiches, why isn't a hot dog a sandwich? It's the same concept. No see, I'm with you, but I'm like it's the one roll, yeah it's not, it's a sandwich.
Speaker 2No, it's taco it.
Speaker 1It's filling between a top and bottom piece of bread.
Speaker 2No, not a hot dog bun. It's connected at the bottom. How do you eat a hot dog?
Speaker 1At the end Right my way through it Boom.
Speaker 2The same thing about next time you eat a hot dog. It's the same angle at which you would eat a taco.
Speaker 1I ate my tacos from the top down like a normal person, Right? Just the same way I eat my bananas.
Speaker 2I eat a banana like I eat corn on the cob.
Speaker 1This really got me thinking and I just I can't agree with you, right, so think about this, because, no, this is why I can't agree with you, Right, so think about this, because no, this is why I can't agree with you. You ready? Because a hot dog bun isn't manufactured to be one piece. It's manufactured to be two pieces, but kept together by a very thin slice to make it easier on. So you're not looking for tops and bottoms. Okay, what about a taco shell, which is no different than a loaf of bread being cut?
Speaker 2No, a loaf of bread is intentionally meant to be flat pieces there, all right. So, harry, if you're ordering a burrito, what's the difference between a breakfast burrito and a lunch or dinner burrito? Right, nothing, nothing. Why, if you're ordering a burrito, what's the difference between a breakfast burrito and a lunch or dinner burrito? Right, nothing, nothing. Why do you call it a burrito?
Speaker 1Because it's wrapped in a tortilla.
Speaker 2So the outside casing makes it a burrito right?
Speaker 1Well, no, there's normally salsa and peppers and there's some common denominators.
Speaker 2Right, you can roll anything up in a burrito or into a tortilla and make it a burrito.
Speaker 1What if your tortilla shell rips?
Speaker 2in half as you're rolling it up. Then you just have a broken burrito.
Speaker 1Oh, so now you're telling me that if I break my hot dog taco container, shell.
Speaker 2I have a broken hot dog bun. That is now a broken hot dog taco shell.
Speaker 1It's not the same, though it wasn't intentionally designed that way.
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 1It's just a coincidence.
Speaker 2I mean, how many regular taco shells break, do you still eat?
Speaker 1it. Is it still a taco? No, then you make taco salad. Oh, you don't make hot dog salad.
Speaker 2Well, I would put it past some people. Harry See, it's pretty wild things.
Speaker 1I hope, though what's bothering me the most is that it's technically designed to be a top and a bottom, so it's a sandwich.
Speaker 2So it's a sandwich. What makes a hot dog not a sandwich? Is it the?
Speaker 1meat? No, it's a filling.
Speaker 2No, that's what I'm saying. Let's say I want an Italian hoagie. You've got meat, you have cheese, you have vegetables and you have your dressing. Yeah, what do you put in a hot dog?
Speaker 1Meat, ketchup or mustard relish, maybe veggies, maybe a little sauerkraut.
Speaker 2So you have a meat, a potential cheese, veggies and a little sauerkraut. So you have a meat, a potential cheese, veggies and a dressing. So it's a sandwich. If it's on two separate pieces of bread, it's a sandwich, but if it's on a hot, dog bun.
Speaker 1It's connected. Oh, my God, I'm going to stroke out, because a hoagie and a cheesesteak is one piece of bread that just so happened to be cut in half. Right, but it's a hoagie, a hot dog. See, no, no, no, no. Here's where I got you, I got you, I got you here's. Here's what's going to trip you up. You ready A real hoagie. You have to cut the bread. Yeah, a hot dog, it comes pre-cut, right.
Speaker 2Therefore, it's a sandwich, which one's the sandwich.
Speaker 1So if you cut the roll for a good hoagie, so according to my logic, I'm making hoagies and cheesesteaks into tacos and the only real sandwich we're left with is hot dog. I don't like this anymore.
Speaker 2I want to go home.
Speaker 1Man.
Speaker 2Harry's getting skunked out of the crick right there. He's ready to go, but think about it. So if I go to Bruno Brothers and I get me some hoagie rolls and I got to slice it open myself, yeah. I can make it a sandwich because I now have to make the cut. But if I get a hot dog bun, it's already pre-cut. Are you cutting a taco shell open? No, why not? This is it's already pre-opened is this Guantanamo Bay?
Speaker 1yeah, there was some mental torture. Look, I would love for them to have me in.
Speaker 2Hey man, we just need to talk about you. Ever seen Jake Peralta? Hey man, I'm going to serenade this guy with my guitar.
Speaker 1I feel like this is a very big Jake Peralta moment.
Speaker 2In an hour of this guy's time. He's either going to agree with me or cry.
Speaker 1Alright, I don't even remember my original stance. He's either going to agree with me or cry. All right, I don't even remember my original stance at this point.
Speaker 2I don't care. You said it was his own standalone thing, I'm not sure. So what convinced me, harry, is, I got to find this diagram for you. It was a tic-tac-toe board, the nine squares. It was a tic-tac-dope toe board, you know the nine squares, and it lit up different segments for sandwiches or what it was right. So tostadas had one on the bottom, a sandwich had one on top and one bottom, and it had a taco which was a U-shape and it said hot dog, also the U-shape.
Speaker 1So therefore, a hot dog is a taco. Taco isn't designed. Oh my God, a taco isn't designed with a top and a bottom. Okay, here's the big difference, buddy. Take a hot dog, roll out, take a taco, shell out.
Speaker 2Tell me which is the top and bottom of the taco shell. Oh, it's very easy to decide because usually when you get the good taco shells, the hard ones, one side is taller than the other. The taller side goes on bottom, but really the top of a hot Well, the taco is the open side.
Speaker 1You're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong are made that way so they can be stacked in the packaging. Listen, I've watched Thousands of hours of how it's made, thousands. Okay, I love that show. Oh, I know you do so. Listen here, buddy. They're made intentionally that way so they can stack together and go into that little sleeve. That's why you have one side that's longer and one side that's shorter. It has nothing to do with a top and a bottom, to where, if I hand you a hot dog bun and I say show me the top and then show me the bottom, you can point to two very distinctive, different pieces of that role.
Speaker 2What if it's a perfectly round hot dog bun?
Speaker 1You show me a perfectly round hot dog bun and I will give you my next six paychecks.
Speaker 2As a matter of fact, I have them on my counter right now because I made them.
Speaker 1That doesn't count. I'm talking about go. I'm talking about going to the store go to. Walmart and find me the roundest. What's a corndog? I would put corndog in the burrito category. It's completely encased in an outer carb-like coating.
Speaker 2Yeah, but it's on the stick. So corn dog is, take it off the stick. Okay, off the stick is a burrito.
Speaker 1Yeah, I can agree with that. Yeah, that's where I need to walk away at agreeing that corn dogs are burritos I can get at least three people to agree with that one it's a carb around a meat filling literally we're thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2Here's a carb wrapped around a meat filling. What else do you need? Some dressing, throw a little mustard on that bad boy nah, we're off.
Speaker 1Do you eat bad boy? Nah, raw these, these straight up. I just eat them straight up, dude.
Speaker 2But a good corn dog, you don't need any flavor enhancers no, no, the only flavor enhancer I like is some of the cheap high school honey mustard. Nah, you know what I'm talking about I do, but I just uh when they send out really well and go to sonic.
Speaker 1I always get a corndog On the side.
Speaker 2When I hear corndog, I think of like a fair.
Speaker 1I don't think. Fun fact, I don't think I've ever actually had a real like Fair corndog. I also try to Avoid fair food. Oh, no, not me. I don't have the stomach for it.
Speaker 2That's where you and I differ is, uh, this thing's ironclad and you've had military training. Well, they don't train you how to have harry, I work with some people to have okay okay, weak stomachs, let's.
Speaker 1Let's kick it back 20 years to go through basic training again and tell me that food was top tier and top notch and didn't hurt your tum tum at all.
Speaker 2Actually, basic training food was some of the best food of my career. You shut up yeah, the the first. Maybe it's cause, uh, you're, you're hungry and you live one meal at a time, but each meal is like a tally mark.
Speaker 1So here's the thing Was it actually good or were you just actually hungry?
Speaker 2Yes, okay, no, I think it's a mixture of the two. But also, like you have a zero. And back when I went through you know sound like an old time here, but back when I went through you had no time to eat, right? Uh. So imagine this real quick. You have three rows of tables. Each table sits four people and each row, uh, eight, eight tables deep, maybe give or take.
Speaker 2So when you go in to eat, you go through, you get your food and you look for the simplest food. You're not asking for much. You're not going to special order your eggs Shoulder to shoulder. You're walking down the line. You get your French toast, maybe some scrambled eggs, some water and maybe something else, but that's when you're getting the peanut butter in the individual cups and maybe some syrup, but you really want the peanut butter. So as you sit down at your table, you can't really look around. Right, you've got to focus on your food and you're putting peanut butter on your French toast, dipping it in syrup and eating it. You're looking for carbs and sugars, that's all.
Speaker 2But as you look down the line, as the tables are getting up, like once one person on your table is done eating, your whole table has to get up, oh no. But also, you don't get up before a table that's set before you or after you don't get up, you know whatever it is. So like you got to be mindful, like if the table sat down before me and I sat down. Like, once they stand up, I know I got to start chugging, but yeah, so we don't really have much time to eat in basic training, but it's some of the best food. That's also the perks of being in the Air Force like we have really good food. Yeah, that French toast is a high I've been chasing for a very long time high school chicken parm sandwich.
Cheesesteak and Brisk Iced Tea
Speaker 1Oh my gosh, we got a pete's. Pete's food truck comes to work lunch truck. Um, we've eaten off of it a couple times over at the shop in chester, yeah, when we were younger. Yeah, they come. They come to my work now and they got a chicken parm sandwich and a chicken patty like the, you know, 10 for a dollar yeah, the microwave ones and American cheese and I say that questionably because it melts. It's melted but it never re -hardens, I guess, I don't know, it stays melted. It doesn't solidify. It doesn't solidify, it doesn't solidify. There's the word I was looking for. I got your back. It's a little weird. It's good, it's good, it's really good. You get a whole lunch for under $10. I'm talking 20-ounce soda sandwich and bag of chips for like $8.
Speaker 1You can't beat it, that's a good deal. That's a great deal, yeah, and you can't beat it, that's a good deal, that's a great deal, yeah, and it's good. And I don't. I'm not knocking it, but I did the chicken parmesan high school dude, it was just nuggets, mozzarella cheese and red sauce, just red sauce.
Speaker 2I don't even what kind of sauce was. Just red sauce, just red on a hoagie roll. On a hoagie roll, man'm telling you, I think we got gypped there near the end. Because if you order, because it was just it was the basic hotline. I had cheeseburgers, chicken nuggets. I want to say it was cheesesteaks Every day. I mean, I mean it doesn't sound more suburb of Philly than that Every day we had cheesesteaks for lunch and nobody ate it.
Speaker 2But yeah, I think if you ordered chicken nuggets, you got six or you got five or something like that. And then. But then when they went to the chicken parm sandwich which, being around the era that you know, initiated and created that, actually, if anybody listens to this one after 68 or before 68, one of my mentions of 68 was part of the crew that helped create that chicken parm sandwich. I'm not going to tell them you got to listen to 68. But yeah, I was in that crew and I think they gypped you on a chicken nugget, I think about it, but I made up for it with extra chocolate milk every day. Well, you also got the roll. Yeah, you got the roll.
Speaker 1I had the food truck today and it was a hot turkey sandwich on a hoagie roll. Oh man, that is one thing I will say. They have real hoagie rolls and not the hoagie roll. It's hard to explain to people who don't get it, who don't understand, but, like Philadelphia and the surrounding area, we have these rolls that are just. You will fist fight someone for one. They're that good. I'm ready. I got a hot turkey sandwich on one of those bad boys today. It's August 15th, it's warm and it's just so good.
Speaker 2Oh man, it sounds really good.
Speaker 1Again. And I got that. I got a can of brisk 20 ounce diet Mountain Dew, a 20 ounce diet Mountain Dew and a chocolate junior. Oh cake, I'll taste your cake action. Yeah, a little tasty cake and a brisk, eight bucks, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2Eight bucks. I had a brisk from Walmart in town here. I think it was like a dollar for the big bottles.
Speaker 1You preach what I want to say. The floor is yours.
Speaker 2Top three, easily, easily top three. It's so slept on.
Speaker 1I don't know what happened to brisk, but like I just stopped drinking it and then I drink it again and I'm like this is phenomenal, Probably because it's like a hundred grams of sugar per serving.
Speaker 2There's 12 servings in a bottle, maybe. But oh my God, I remember going out to dinner one time Mom, dad, free, who else was there? Went to one of the diners in Aston one of the diners in Aston, but not Aston Diner. Any of our listeners who are from the area will understand that. But I remember like, hey, what do you want to drink? And you know everybody's gonna give me coke and Pepsi. I was like, can I have a lemon brisk iced tea please? Yeah, they're at the table to stare at me. Like you just said, iced tea.
Speaker 1That's what they know, hey, but here's the thing, though. Here's the kicker. If I order iced tea and it's brisk, I'm not happy.
Speaker 2Oh no. No, You're absolutely right. There is a delineation between iced tea and brisk. Brisk is an instant iced tea taste. Yes, Bro, I'm going to the store to buy me some instant tea. That used to be our jam.
Speaker 1Instant tea. Yeah, yes, it's quick, easy, easy and to the point. I mean it's just, it's just lemon sugar and additives.
Speaker 2I don't know what the additives are, but it's so good brisk iced tea, I'm not even mad at it. I am not even mad. That's one of those.
Speaker 1I wish, I wish a sponsor from brisk. I would make me very happy, and they just supplied us with brisk not even monetarily, just like go get a cold brisk on us.
Speaker 2Wait, send me a milk crate, not every other month, right? Maybe you know what I want to get a deal with Amoroso Rolls and Brisk. Amoroso is going to be sending me rolls.
Speaker 1Hell yeah.
Speaker 2Did I? Speaking of that? I know we're talking about rolls and I know we got a couple Casts left in us here. Did I ever tell you the time that dad came out to Vegas Around my 21st birthday, give or take? And I was like alright, dad, what do you want to do for lunch? I took off from work. What do you want to do for lunch? You're in Vegas, the world is your. What do you want to do for lunch? I took off from work. What do you want to do for lunch? You're in Vegas, the world is your oyster. What are you in the mood for?
Speaker 1Vegas is one of the most I think it's one of the most slept on spots in the world, yeah.
Speaker 2You could eat out every night for a year and not eat the same place twice, right? So I'm like dad, where do you want to go? He's like I want a good cheesesteak. I said well, I mean, you're going back home in a couple of days Like you used to get one there. He said, no, I want one here. Now, this is pre-smartphone, harry, this is pre-everything to where.
Speaker 2I'm still driving around Vegas getting lost, and then I remember seeing this sign Pops Pride of Philly Steaks Stand-alone shop. I was like whatever man, let's go here. I don't know any different. I know Capriati's and I saw this place. So we were just over that area. We pull up and then dad goes to the counter. He goes like where do you get your rolls from?
Speaker 2Now, dad, who's flown across country here I don't know if it's time, he flew or drove, whatever. Now dad's out there. He's like where do you get your rolls from? This is the first question. It's like this 18, 19-year-old kid working in the county. He's like I don't know, let me ask. So they go get the manager. He's trying to help you. He's like I get Amoroso rolls imported daily. Okay, okay, all right, daggis, where do you get your meat from Like unimpressed about the Amoroso, yeah right, where do you get your meat? And he's like I got a connection in Philly. I get it from Liberty Meats.
Speaker 2Dad's like I don't believe you. He's like, no, no, I do. And like the guy had had like somehow vouched for it. Dad's like, fine, I'll take a regular cheesesteak, provolone onions, the whole gamut and he goes. But here's the deal when you give me my cheesesteak, I'm gonna take one bite of it and if I don't like it I'm throwing it back in your face. I want my money back. So I'm like 19 to 21 in that range, and I'm sitting there. I'm like dang, dad and I. So all they're seating is just outdoor picnic tables, it's not even fancy. And so they give us our steaks and I sit down and go eat mine and there's Dad, like standing up at the window, takes a big bite of it. He just stares at these people and Dad goes that'll do, and then sat at the picnic table with me. Yeah, so when you say people uppercut for a role, that's what I think about every time.
Speaker 1Just because of the proud father nod.
Speaker 2I'll let it fly. That'll do dog, That'll do That'll do Buddy, that'll do.
Speaker 1That'll do Buddy, that'll do it for this show that will Quick cast, quick flash in a hurry. I like it I don't want any more blank spaces.
Speaker 2No man, now we're going to see some good cricks coming up here soon. We're going to pull over and do a, yeah, a little fishing at the work.
Speaker 1I mean, they've even got apps now to where you can find fishing holes, so we'll we'll be sure to keep these going, keep these alive. Like I said, we're going to put this one in the bank. We got a couple episodes coming out guaranteed, but we are tired of dead, blank space but we are tired of dead blank space?
Podcast Production Talk
Speaker 1Yeah, this is for you. So we're going to again, we're going to just stash this away and I'm even going to get it added up real quick and just have it sitting ready to go and just hit publish Boom.
Speaker 2Have it ready on that line. That way they're going to boop drop in the crick and go.
Speaker 1It's like when you're reeling it in, you're almost back at the shore with your lure and you get a bite right there. Three cranks and you're done Such a good.
Speaker 2That's a good fish right there, such a great fish.
Speaker 1Well, thanks for listening. Don't get your lines tangled. And if you need help, reach out, guarantee someone will listen. Go birds, go birds. And if you need help, reach out, guarantee someone will listen. Go birds, go birds. Thanks for listening to Trot. Shame, this has been a Hook Brothers production.
